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12 Dec 2009
by Dhc
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DEBATE: THE DEVELOPED WORLD MUST SHOULDER THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE COST OF ADAPTING TO CLIMATE CHANGE
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The developed world has spewed out CO2 for the last two centuries and its financial riches make it best able to adapt to climate change. Developing countries will be worst affected and least able to cope. A new kind of aid is necessary to help those who have been displaced by climate change and protect homes and livelihoods. The International Institute for Environment and Development argues that the cost could be 2-3 times the US$40-170 billion per year estimated by the UN Framework Convention on Climate Change. As this adaptation funding needs to be in addition to any funding provided for mitigation can the developed world afford to take on this extra cost?
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THE DEVELOPED WORLD MUST SHOULDER THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE COST OF ADAPTING TO CLIMATE CHANGE
the developed nations must pay for their sins
The entire climate situation has arisen due to irresponsible and fast paced development initiated by the developed nations since the industrial revolution. They have exploited the natural resources of nearly half the planet ( their homeland and colonies ) for their vested interests. In fact almost the entire developing world is a former colony of one developed nation or the other.Hence when climate change has reached critical levels, its necessary that the developed nations take responsibility for the damage done by them and indulge in corrective measures worldwide, like they indulged in colonization worldwide a few centuries ago .This is in response to the Counter Argument.It is not the ends we are talking about, rather the means.
The ends aren't as rose-coloured as you claim; either.How many deaths/diseases/poisons have spawned from industrialization? Every living thing on this planet has suffered gravely in the horrible way the industrialist-capitalist-bourgeoisie chose to grant wealth to the world, while widening the gap/resentment/hatred/angst between the rich and poor. Invading another person's country and then exploiting brutally their wealth, their resources, murdering their people and destroying their culture is a sin enough in my books. That apart whether knowingly or unknowingly, climate change is a direct effect of globalization and industrialization and should be taken care of by the ones responsible for it.
How can climate change be considered the developed world's 'sins'? For the vast majority of the time the developed world was belching out CO2 we had no idea what effect it had, is it a sin if it is believed to be good. Industrialisation indeed brought many benefits, we are many times richer, poverty rates have fallen 80% just since 1970[1] imagine how much poverty reduction there has been since industrialisation begain in the middle of the eighteenth century. There has been an similar reduction in desieses as we have found cures or drained malarial marshes, creates sewers etc.So is industriallisation bad? should the developed world be blamed for industrialising and pulling many other areas along too (albeit later)?
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THE DEVELOPED WORLD MUST SHOULDER THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE COST OF ADAPTING TO CLIMATE CHANGE
Developed countries contribute more in terms of emission of green house gases.
Industrialised coutries burn more fossil fuels emitting volumes of carbon IV oxide into the atmosphere. They also engage in Massive deforestation in developing countries in search of timber and other raw materials for their industries.
Cap and trade: Developed nations have tried to spread awareness of the issue among their people and the people of the rest of the world for a very long time. Laws in the developed world are designed to lessen carbon emissions significantly, while little or no effort to improve the environment is made in the third and fourth worlds. The fact that developed countries contribute more in terms of green house emissions is only partly true. If we look at the data available we find that developing countries like India and China are also among the top emitters.If these countries can demand a greater share in the world power and money game, it is equally justified that they should also take a lead role in mitigating climate change and take more environment friendly decisions. It is easier to bend a molten iron rod then to bend a cold piece. So instead of passing the buck, the developing countries need to take firm decisions. Decisions which justify their growing stature.
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THE DEVELOPED WORLD MUST SHOULDER THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE COST OF ADAPTING TO CLIMATE CHANGE
Developing countries simply don't have the money
In developing countries, finance is extremely limited, priorities are many. There are many issues that developing countries must address - from healthcare to poverty to infrastructure. Now, they must also face the added problem of climate change. It can't just leave everything else and just fight on this one front. So, the developed countries, which have much less urgent necessities, should come forward and bear the costs. While they do have to make some sacrifices, it can be beneficial in the long run since everyone will eventually be benefited if CO2 emissions decrease.
THE DEVELOPED WORLD MUST SHOULDER THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE COST OF ADAPTING TO CLIMATE CHANGE
The developed countries should shoulder the cost and give special aids to the developing ones, but above that .....
YESit is no lie that the developed countries of the world have since the industrial revolution have spewed more CO2 than other countries of the world put togther, with them consuming about 25% of the world resources, there's a need ofr them to bear the brunt of adapting to climate change since they make more money than other countries of the world. moreover since developed world are handicapped there's should be some form of aid or financial incentive to assist devloping countries of the world in adapting the cost of climate change. but above all what is more important than aid for the developing countries is that the devloped countries should assist the developing one still on the path towards developement to choose environmental friendly path towrads industrailization, since the path that tey worked so far has proven to be less enivronmental friendly and although it might seen cost effective on the short term but quite expensive on the long run. The developed countries being what they are have access to technology and knowledge that is way beyound the reach of the developed ones, so therefore apart from aid techical knowledge towrads industrialization that put the enivronment in teh cengter of analysis that can proffer an effective way for human and the environment to coexist togther is IMPORTANT.
THE DEVELOPED WORLD MUST SHOULDER THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE COST OF ADAPTING TO CLIMATE CHANGE
Corruption means an adaption fund will not be used wisely
Is there a single country on the entire planet devoid of corruption in the government? NO."All though, from experience, because of wasteful spending and graft, I would not want such a compensation for developing nations, especially African leaders. Except of course if the impact of the compensation would be felt directly by the masses, other wise, NO!"- it is the financiers' responsibility to make sure the funds that they provide are used wisely.
Saying we paid for it and don't know where the money went is no excuse for the fact that the developed world has mostly/greatly/hugely contributed(and continues to contribute ) to the current climate crisis and owes the rest of the world incentive and compensation.If a sponsor gives a student funds,then it is the responsibility of that same sponsor to keep track of those funds, to wrangle the student every time he or she shows signs of under-performing or indolence or lavish irresponsible spending.Experience has shown that developed nations are generally fairly irresponsible about where their money is going and need to change/reform their attitude towards and choice of beneficiaries.
Morally if there is going to be a progress in achieving carbon reduction, Rich Nations have a great lots of role to play. Over 90 % of carbon emissions comes from the developed nations, the majority of the impact of climate change if felt directly by the developing nations. They, rich nations, have the financial muscle, resources, technology, and the political and economic will to lessen the impact of climate change on their peoples, a reality that third world countries lack. So, majority of the efforts geared towards a carbon reduction must be borne by the rich nations. It would also not be misplaced argument if rich nations pay compensation for the damages of climate change felt by developing nations. All though, from experience, because of wasteful spending and graft, I would not want such a compensation for developing nations, especially African leaders. Except of course if the impact of the compensation would be felt directly by the masses, other wise, NO! Such corruption means that an adaption fund is not the best way to go. Adaption and mitigating against climate change is going to mean big infrastructure projects - projects to create renewable energy, sea walls, flood defences, large internal movements requiring the building of new homes and infrastructure. These kind of big projects have always been especially prone to corruption. They never get completed and all the funds find their way into the hands of the wealthy elite.There needs to be another way.
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